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Stories that left you disappointed for a reason

seneya said:
Which doesn't have to be this way, because most IF writers are also IF readers. Just because you're writing something doesn't make your opinions as a reader magically disappear lol... so one'd think they'd understand where the other readers are coming from. In any case, I think blogs/threads like these can be educational for a writer if you can learn to filter feedback.
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That would mean they'd have to stop taking things personally (and realize negative opinions on their work is not a reflection of themselves) which may be a long shot with how much they get coddled by their audiences.

Though to be fair it's also a problem that's not unique to the IF sphere as similar issues have cropped up on Goodreads (and similar sites) where authors have attacked reviewers that leave a negative review while disregarding that review spaces are first-and-foremost for the readers not the authors. Or when authors discover fandom spaces and go nuclear on their fans despite choosing to enter spaces that are specifically for the fans not the creator.
 
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LosLorento said:
Or when authors discover fandom spaces and go nuclear on their fans despite choosing to enter spaces that are specifically for the fans not the creator.
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I remember watching a webtoon creator have an entire meltdown over this to the point they spoiled their own story and ended it because fans shipped two characters. I've yet to see an IF writer reach that level of drama queen yet.
 
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Everytime i see something from this author its just another drama they got in lol

I've never actually heard a good thing about them or their work, all i see is him bitching about getting hated on while hes spreading the most violent hate I've ever seen an author spread.

Did anyone even read his IF?? Is it at least good so he's a bit redeemable?
 
realman said:
Everytime i see something from this author its just another drama they got in lol

I've never actually heard a good thing about them or their work, all i see is him bitching about getting hated on while hes spreading the most violent hate I've ever seen an author spread.

Did anyone even read his IF?? Is it at least good so he's a bit redeemable?
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I don’t really like this authors personality either. And I’m not trying to dog on their work, cause I know they aren’t native English speaker, but their IF wasn’t good to me, it was poorly written, and incoherent at times. Like someone else said, I couldn’t get through the first couple of pages. Supposedly, they’re doing a rewrite, so maybe they’ll fix those issues, but I won’t read it due to them being rude and off-putting. I’m still kind of salty about the whole press play thing 😂 ngl.
 
yourstalkeroutside said:
Yep. That meltdown makes me giggle every time I remember it. Imagine writing yandere and horror and then being surprised (and throwing a tantrum over it) that your audience is full of freaks. I don't think I know any IF writer who could top that.
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It was
pretty obvious to me that those two were related so I don’t understand why people were shipping them. I wouldn’t even ship him with Hawa, I mean he is literally a serial killer !? But I think most of the people who left those comments are kids or teens.
What I don't get is how some authors don't seem to step back and acknowledge that a big chunk of their audience ( especially on Webtoon ) is young—and most of them are just there for the romance, which can lead to some pretty strange and immature comments that are probably best ignored.
Still, I hope the creator comes back to finish the story, but apparently they already did something like this, also the indefinite hiatus might not be a hiatus ( shame, I really wanted to see why the cop was helping him ).
 
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Glitch said:
and most of them are just there for the romance, which can lead to some pretty strange and immature comments that are probably best ignored.
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Even then, you really can't control people.
Incest or serial killers has never a deterrent in fandom spaces especially horror spaces
Throwing a tantrum like that just shows that you're immature and and control your emotions tbh
 
Aight I'm a little bit worried about the Breach series. It's the best crime IF that's been published but more and more it feels like the authors give too much focus on the Trio that sometimes even the MC is sidelined? The reason MC is there is because Gabriel, everything that's happened is plotted by the Trio, what info we receive always comes from the Trio and rarely (if never at all) do we find it out ourselves. There's also that little problem of how the MC doesn't stand out at all in the story despite being the main protagonist, and it's even more apparent when we play a weird or unhinged character (oh, your MC is crazy? guess what? these other characters are crazier so your MC is not really unique) Idk, the closer I look at it the more it seems to be another case of authors using IFs to showcase their self-insert OCs
 
SasariRomanii said:
Aight I'm a little bit worried about the Breach series. It's the best crime IF that's been published but more and more it feels like the authors give too much focus on the Trio that sometimes even the MC is sidelined? The reason MC is there is because Gabriel, everything that's happened is plotted by the Trio, what info we receive always comes from the Trio and rarely (if never at all) do we find it out ourselves. There's also that little problem of how the MC doesn't stand out at all in the story despite being the main protagonist, and it's even more apparent when we play a weird or unhinged character (oh, your MC is crazy? guess what? these other characters are crazier so your MC is not really unique) Idk, the closer I look at it the more it seems to be another case of authors using IFs to showcase their self-insert OCs
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I kinda agree and disagree at the same time. The first book in its entirety was as you said, we were a side character and the trio were the protagonists. The second book however I feel the MC is coming into their own. There's a few moments where we get to shine. I don't remember much but from the last time I read the demo we lead the escape and save other archangels from the prison and we fight this major mob guy and best him all the while being drugged like an animal. I haven't read more than that. I remember mouse getting kidnapped too. It's clear there's progress so I can kinda read through it but I'm not a fan of sidelining the MC for the trio. I read the first book because the characters and setting were good even if we were a rookie in all sense. I believe even the author has commented on this in the past on Tumblr that MC would act like an actual protagonist from the second book and that we were more of a rookie in the first one.
 
SasariRomanii said:
Aight I'm a little bit worried about the Breach series. It's the best crime IF that's been published but more and more it feels like the authors give too much focus on the Trio that sometimes even the MC is sidelined? The reason MC is there is because Gabriel, everything that's happened is plotted by the Trio, what info we receive always comes from the Trio and rarely (if never at all) do we find it out ourselves. There's also that little problem of how the MC doesn't stand out at all in the story despite being the main protagonist, and it's even more apparent when we play a weird or unhinged character (oh, your MC is crazy? guess what? these other characters are crazier so your MC is not really unique) Idk, the closer I look at it the more it seems to be another case of authors using IFs to showcase their self-insert OCs
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Yup it’s just some authors will get a pass because they are loved, breach would be one of my favorites if not for the bs the trio pulls off. In some IFs it feels as the author made the story and then the MC and try to add the mc there as last minute thing. You can tell when a IF was a novel and MC was created to make it a IF. I usually ask myself this if you remove the MC from the story does anything changes? I don’t need the story to revolve around the MC, but I want them to feel relevant to it. ATOH became a poster boy for it because the author was honest and admitted that MC will not become more relevant than his OC story still sucks though. Honestly he could have turned his reputation around and became one of the hottest IFs if he just had added a route where MC became a villain slowly, but instead he needed to stick to his novel and didn’t capitalize while everyone was talking about it like talk about a missed chance. Back on topic I need more Authors who love the MC the most I know it’s hard because they aren’t set like a side characters but I hardly see authors say their favorite character is the MC. You’ll get away with a self-insert OC if you are loved tho trust, people are willing to overlook it. I just don’t see breach MC ever surpassing the trio, no matter what tbh. Just because of their backstory.
 
God said:
but I hardly see authors say their favorite character is the MC
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I think I've only seen the Golden Rose author express this kind of opinion.
For some other stories, the MC is basically just a tool to interact with the characters/plot.
I believe they should be a character in their own right, though it's easier to do with a set/semi-set MC than a blank slate one.
(I like writing my MC specifically bc to me they are a character like the others)
 
God said:
I just don’t see breach MC ever surpassing the trio, no matter what tbh. Just because of their backstory.
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Idk I can see it happen towards the end of book 2. The author kinda gave the MC the plot armour that the trio usually has, specifically Gabriel. The MC is still story relevant tho. Our father was the mentor of the Trio and there's still a whole lot of stuff which haven't been explored there. Almost all the major characters when seeing us are like "so you're him huh", must pay off sometime. Besides, the entirety of the trio are all 30+ and the MC is like 24 or something. There's plenty of time to surpass the trio imo. If I may be so bold id say Gabriel is the only one out of limits atm with the amount of plot armour he has.

Isn't the MC chosen to be the new Gabriel or something in the demo? Like leading a specific branch of the Archangels? MC relevance is getting more and more over the second book so the author can be credited for that. I just hope MC doesn't become second fiddle to the trio throughout the series like you said. We are already meddling in their affairs and acting the mediator a lot so it can only go up from there.
 
Gone_Dead said:
I kinda agree and disagree at the same time. The first book in its entirety was as you said, we were a side character and the trio were the protagonists. The second book however I feel the MC is coming into their own. There's a few moments where we get to shine. I don't remember much but from the last time I read the demo we lead the escape and save other archangels from the prison and we fight this major mob guy and best him all the while being drugged like an animal. I haven't read more than that. I remember mouse getting kidnapped too. It's clear there's progress so I can kinda read through it but I'm not a fan of sidelining the MC for the trio. I read the first book because the characters and setting were good even if we were a rookie in all sense. I believe even the author has commented on this in the past on Tumblr that MC would act like an actual protagonist from the second book and that we were more of a rookie in the first one.
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Yeah, Chicago Warzone is a big improvement. Just one little hitch tho after the drug scene and we were taken to the mafia's ground, they were all like "yeah, he's Gabriel's most dangerous asset" and all that, it doesn't quite hit and my first reaction insetad of satisfaction was more of a "Huh, didn't know you guys know about the Mc at all". Because have we really been shown that anyone in the story acknowledge MC's badassery before this, no matter what we do? Best we get was a couple small comments like "nice shot" or "you're good" etc.

I also notice with how short IFs typically are, when the story ends no matter if it's a series or stand-alone, it feels like we have only read the prologue of a bigger story --- like we're just getting to the good part and there should be more after this. There are IFs that doesn't have this problem and do feel like it's a complete story like the Choice of the Deathless, Tin Star, Lawless Ones (this one's endings are a bit mediocre though).
 
Gone_Dead said:
Isn't the MC chosen to be the new Gabriel or something in the demo?
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Mmm, only because Gabriel sort of manipulated us to take on the role. Tbh, I'm glad when Gabby (Gabriel's sister, these naming gets frustrating) actually asked us if we want to take it or nah. If it weren't for Gabby, our ascend to Gabriel would just be Gabriel shoving it up on us like usual... I swear he's a control freak, I mean his sister kind of told us that he is.
 
SasariRomanii said:
Mmm, only because Gabriel sort of manipulated us to take on the role. Tbh, I'm glad when Gabby (Gabriel's sister, these naming gets frustrating) actually asked us if we want to take it or nah. If it weren't for Gabby, our ascend to Gabriel would just be Gabriel shoving it up on us like usual... I swear he's a control freak, I mean his sister kind of told us that he is.
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Gabriela is her title right? I remember reading somewhere that she might be romanceble in the second book lmao.

Isn't the reason for us being the new Gabriel because the trio Gabriel has to leave somewhere on an important mission? I actually like that the trio all have their faults. Micheal has such a short fuse and is very short sighted, Gabriel is a control freak and tires himself out regularly and Raquel is always looking up to both for guidance, kinda like Mikasa ig.
 
Gone_Dead said:
Gabriela is her title right? I remember reading somewhere that she might be romanceble in the second book lmao.

Isn't the reason for us being the new Gabriel because the trio Gabriel has to leave somewhere on an important mission? I actually like that the trio all have their faults. Micheal has such a short fuse and is very short sighted, Gabriel is a control freak and tires himself out regularly and Raquel is always looking up to both for guidance, kinda like Mikasa ig.
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Ohohoh, would definitely have my male MC rizz her up! I've also seen people wanting the VamCorp CEO to be romancable and I gotta agree, but I think we've had more than enough ROs as it is. And yeah, their flaws are what makes them fun, even more fun is how the authors treat them like flaws unlike some...
 
SasariRomanii said:
Aight I'm a little bit worried about the Breach series. It's the best crime IF that's been published but more and more it feels like the authors give too much focus on the Trio that sometimes even the MC is sidelined? The reason MC is there is because Gabriel, everything that's happened is plotted by the Trio, what info we receive always comes from the Trio and rarely (if never at all) do we find it out ourselves. There's also that little problem of how the MC doesn't stand out at all in the story despite being the main protagonist, and it's even more apparent when we play a weird or unhinged character (oh, your MC is crazy? guess what? these other characters are crazier so your MC is not really unique) Idk, the closer I look at it the more it seems to be another case of authors using IFs to showcase their self-insert OCs
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I also feel like this throughout the first book. MC feels like those silent protagonists in jrpg (and not the good ones). We do talk, but it's never written in the narrative itself I believe? Please correct me if I'm wrong because my memory is janky. MC only talk through the choices. MC doesn't feel expressive either but that might be my fault for playing as a stoic MC. But even stoic MCs in other books I've played isn't this....I don't know, bland?
Book 2 is better but not by much. Maybe because the demo is still short. I hate that scene where MC tries to break the fight between the trio but it just comes off as awkward to me. MC feels like a pick me girl trying to stop a school fight 😭 MC feels like stranger who just inserts themself into someone else's problem.
Also, what is the point of the fbi route? I don't understand their motive. The fbi route just feels like someone who's salty because the mafia is doing much better job than them.
The Archangel is also too perfect. They never cause casualties, all the crimes they did is justified because it actually helps others (I don't really remember the details, but it was the robbery on a bank, I think? One of the bank staff was grateful of the robbery because that company was abusing their employees).
I don't see any reason that can make us sympathize with the FBI and choose to side with them
 
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